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[salman]

Imam Khayr al-Din  al-Ramli’s Verdict On Saying
“Ya `Abd al-Qadir Shay’un lillah!”

He was Khayr al-Din ibn Ahmad ibn Nur al-Din `Ali ibn Zayn al-Din al-Faruqi al-Ramli al-Hanafi (1585-1671), possibly the greatest of the Hanafi authorities in his time. Imam Haskafi, the author of the Durr al-Mukhtar and student of Imam Khayr al-Din, described him as:

شَيْخِي الْحَبْرُ السَّامِي وَالْبَحْرُ الطَّامِي . وَاحِدُ زَمَانِهِ وَحَسَنَةُ أَوَانِهِ . شَيْخُ الْإِسْلَامِ الشَّيْخُ خَيْرُ الدِّينِ الرَّمْلِيُّ أَطَالَ اللَّهُ بَقَاءَهُ

“My shaykh, the sublime scholar, the satiated ocean, the rarest of his age, and most excellent of his time, the Shaykh al-Islam Khayr al-Din al-Ramli.”

Ibn `Abidin, who quotes Ramli extensively in his commentary, stated:

الْإِمَامُ الْمُفَسِّرُ الْمُحَدِّثُ الْفَقِيهُ اللُّغَوِيُّ الصُّوفِيُّ النَّحْوِيُّ الْبَيَانِيُّ الْعَرُوضِيُّ الْمَنْطِقِيُّ الْمُعَمِّرُ . شَيْخُ الْحَنَفِيَّةِ فِي عَصْرِهِ وَصَاحِبُ الْفَتَاوَى السَّائِرَةِ وَغَيْرِهَا مِنْ التَّآلِيفِ النَّافِعَةِ فِي الْفِقْهِ

“The Imam, Qur’anic exegete, hadith scholar, scholar of law, linguist, Sufi, grammarian… the shaykh of the Hanafis of his age…”

In his work on legal verdicts, entitled Fatawa Khayiryyah (vol 2, pg: 182 Dar al-Ma`rifah ed. 1974), the Imam was asked about those who “state 'Oh Shaykh `Abd al-Qadir! Oh Ahmad! Oh Rifa`i! Give us something for the sake of Allah!'” The Imam answered, after a lengthy verdict on loud dhikr,:

“As for their saying ‘Oh `Abd al-Qadir’ then it is [merely] a call (nida’). When ‘give us something for Allah’ is conjoined to it then it is seeking something out of the bountifulness (ikraman) of Allah. So what necessitates its impermissibility (hurmatihi)?

[…]

[And the statement] some have passed the verdict of disbelief upon the one who said ‘give us something for Allah’ then there is no reason (wajh) for it. How can this be when they state that a believer does not leave faith except through the denial (juhud) of that which he entered it through? And their saying [it is] disbelief is a grave matter (`azim) for the verdict of disbelief is not passed against a Muslim on that which there is disagreement upon, even [if the difference is established] by a weak narration (bi riwayat dh`aifah). And we seek refuge in Allah that disbelief be found in this.”

And Allah Knows Best

Wasalam
Salman

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[faqir]

as-salamu `alaikum sidi,
jazakumAllahu khayran.
how many pages is the whole fatwa including the section on loud dhikr you referred to?

[salman]

faqir, on Dec 15 2008, 02:52 PM, said:

as-salamu `alaikum sidi,
jazakumAllahu khayran.
how many pages is the whole fatwa including the section on loud dhikr you referred to?

salamu `alaykum

About four, I would say.

In his verdict he discusses the following issues: [a] loud dhikr [b] calling out to the saints [c] spiritual dance (raqs) and [d] poetry/singing.

He brings forth positions for the permissibility of all of the above.

Wasalam
Salman

[faqir]

cool
can you take a photo of all four pages perhaps?  then maybe al-kakazai or yourself can translate it

[Muslim_Hakkani]

Assalamu Alaikum.

It would be interesting to see what the Imam has to say about Raqs and singing.

[el-Turki]

How about those scans/photos or even a translation of these four pages? : )